Support Groups needed for men

More than once I have searched for support groups for men and I have had problems doing so. There are many religious groups who provide services for people. As a Specialist, Pastoral Counsellor, I recognize the relevance of religion and spirituality as part of a person's makeup. However, a person needs to be respected when religion is not part of the support wish. AA has been able to speak of a higher power allowing people to determine what that higher power is. But today while trying to find a support system, the only one I could find was scripture based, where scripture is read. What I was looking for is something without religion being imposed on someone who does not want it. Ironically, the person I was speaking to was trying to convince me of the importance of scripture in a support group. People's rights need to be respected. Their views of religion may not meet the expectation of others. There is so much good work that can be provided regardless of one's religious beliefs without imposing it on others. As a Specialist, Pastoral Counsellor, I have my own religion base. I would never dream of imposing my own views. I have studied the various religions and therefore can help a variety of people where understanding their religion is important to them. Therefore, the motto of you have to have to be from this religion to understand it, does not work for me. That tells me you have to be raped to understand men or women who have been raped, you have to lose loved ones to understand how grief works, you have to have trauma to understand PTSD etc.....I cannot imagine what one suffers with but I can have empathy. We all come from different lifestyles, cultures, religions, spirituality etc....We are who we are because of our experiences, good and/or bad. Who are we, when we decide what we should be imposing on someone else? As you know, I am always checking out Niagara Falls because I am considering moving there. I have no time limit. I do love my city and what it offers. Toronto will always be mine, regardless of where I live. I have been here just too long. I take her for granted because we have so much here, but I also see how much more we can have. While I was getting annoyed this morning because I could not find what I wanted, I thought of a job article in Niagara that wanted a Counsellor, Christian based who understood the importance of obedience. Really? What kind of counselling is that? I sometimes cringe of what is supposed to be helping people, is actually hurting them more, by imposition. This is why I believe that everything needs to be regulated when it comes to mental health. People do need to be protected. At a recent function I asked a woman if her daughter was attending. I made a mistake as this woman was not who I thought she was. Immediately, someone else said I should know better than to ask such a question. Really? I should know better? Then another woman started to gossip, which I deplore so I said what I thought of gossiping and then began to converse to a little ten year old girl, seated beside me. She was refreshing and a joy. She wants to be a lawyer. She wanted to know if I thought her uncle was nice looking or not, etc...... I blurted out that I was having the most intelligent conversation of the day. All from a ten year old little girl, who has no malice, no judgement. I do hope she does grow up and become a lawyer. I think that is wonderful to hear. So when it comes to helping people, yes spirituality and religion is important, becauses then we can encompass the whole person. However, it is not helpful to the client, patient, who does not want religion shoved down his or her throat. How much more effective, if one can remove themselves from their own perspectives, and if religious, remember that Christ led by example. Remember, that Jesus was always at odds with the religious leaders of his time. They were missing the point. Are we still missing the point? If anyone is looking for a particular support group and are having difficutly find one as one person told me today, get in touch with me to place your name on a list to start our own. If you are a registered therapist interested in starting groups where there is a need let me know. We can only make our city and resources improve. What do you think?